Tuesday, October 21, 2014

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Dooley: Unacceptable outcome

Taking Charlie's list (which is a good one, I must say):

The Splash hires:
1) Jim Harbaugh   - I wouldn't mind this one, but I think if he leaves the NFL it's for Meeechigan
2) Jon Gruden - Ugh.  No.  Talk about a guy who can't develop QBs.  Just look at his record with the Bucs.  Anyway, don't think he's leaving his cushy position any time soon.
 
The Former Gators;
1) Joe Wickline  - I'm not familiar with what he's doing now/where he is
2) Kerwin Bell - A sentimental favorite, but I don't know that Foley could take that chance after Muschamp
3) Brian Schottenhiemer - I love the thought of Schottie, plus he learned under the master (SOS)
 
The Retreads;
1) Bob Stoops  - He's not leaving.
2) Steve Spurrier - See above.  And we Gators need to stop being like Bama and Bear Bryant.  SOS is gone.  Let's let him go.
 
Other Coaches;
1) Dan Mullen  - That's who everyone is clamoring for, but I have heard lots of talk that the money Gator Boosters do not like him
2) Sumerlin (TXAM) -  I'm not sure he'd leave?  Maybe we should go after his OC.
3) The guy at Michigan St (Donatello or something like that) - D'Antonio.  Interesting thought.  I don't know enough about his background, but there is a long history of Michigan State guys making the jump to the SEC and doing well...
4) Rich Rodriquez - His time at Michigan troubles me with this choice, but maybe he was never really given a chance.  Not sure I know enough about his time there (other than the losses).


On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Jay Cicone <Jay.Cicone@raymondjames.com> wrote:

Stoops is a defensive guy with a great record, though we have no chance of luring him away from Oklahoma—he has near legendary status there.

 

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Why is it non-sense?  Unproven at a big school?  So?  He's only won every where he has been...  Please explain why this would be non-sense...

 

I wonder if we could lure Strong from Texas-- not that I want another defensive minded HC.  

 


From: Woody <gatorrrrrr@gmail.com>
To: "gatortalk@googlegroups.com" <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 6:25 AM
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Stop with the Kerwin non-sense. 

Sent from my iPhone

 


On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:35 PM, 'Scott Lucas' via GatorTalk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Patterson at TCU.  

 

I like the Kerwin Bell idea.  Let him come in and do what SOS did...

 

Whoever gets the call needs to be an offensive guru.  We have done well with that model.  We did well with SOS.  We did well with urban.  We did poorly w Muschamp and Zook-  both defensive types.  

 

 



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From: "C.Simpson" <ces1948@gmail.com>
Date:10/20/2014 8:03 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Dooley: Unacceptable outcome

If Muschamp were sent packing today and Kurt Roper was named interim there are a couple of possible positive outcomes. We would get to see if the play calling and offense was being micromanaged by Muschamp as has widely speculated for the last 4 years. The team might rally around Roper and win a couple of games.
I'll also throw in Doc Holliday from Marshall as a strong candidate. One of the top recruiters in the game, great offense, knows the state. Downside is at 57 he might be considered "too old".
Charlie


On 10/20/2014 7:34 PM, Randy Platt wrote:

If the Gators won every game left on their schedule, I doubt Muschamp can save his job.  I know it, you know it, Muschamp knows it, and Foley knows it.  So it is just a matter of timing.  IMHO, there is no reason to fire coach now because I see no advantage to doing so.  Our offense is putrid because we have had 3 OC and 3 O-line coaches in four years and 4 WR coaches (2 elevated GA's) in 4 years.  No wonder our quarterbacks can't read defenses, our line can't block, and our receivers can't catch.  I fully acknowledge Muschamp is responsible for this and will pay with his job soon enough.  But this offense is so bad, I cannot see a single thing including firing Muschamp that could help it.  While I have accepted our fate for this year I am making my list of potential candidates as I am sure Foley has done or is doing.

 

So here is who I have come up with so far:

 

The Splash hires:

1) Jim Harbaugh

2) Jon Gruden

 

The Former Gators;

1) Joe Wickline

2) Kerwin Bell

3) Brian Schottenhiemer

 

The Retreads;

1) Bob Stoops

2) Steve Spurrier

 

Other Coaches;

1) Dan Mullen

2) Sumerlin (TXAM)

3) The guy at Michigan St (Donatello or something like that)

4) Rich Rodriquez

 

Okay I picked all the easy ones but I am sure there are others.  Either way I figure Foley is going to go with a big name splash coach or does he go back to the young up and coming coach.  Do you go long term or short term, I know this, I am glad I don't have to make the call.  I wonder if Foley will check with the bull gators this time around.

 

JAFO

 

 

Randy Platt

aka "PCGator"

aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

aka "The Other Randy"

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of C.Simpson
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:27 PM
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If Foley doesn't fire him now he must hold out hope he won't have to fire him at all.
Charlie


On 10/19/2014 8:29 PM, Sandy Alonso wrote:

I was under the impression UF's new president doesn't come on board until January.  I don't think the program can wait until then.

 

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Darlene Goodfellow <goodfellow4@earthlink.net> wrote:

One possible reason for the delay I've read in another forum is they may need the new president to come on board to approve buy outs and budget for new coaches. It's also possible there is something in his contract that reduces the buyout if we have a losing season. Still, it's getting so bad now I think they really need to act sooner rather than later.

 

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I think this is the perfect time to fire him midseason.  You have a bye week.  You have an offensive coordinator who WAS an upcoming and a head coach prospect.  Lose Muschamp, slap an interim head coach title on Roper, which effectively removes the handcuffs he has right now with Muschamp, and let Roper show what he can do.  If he truly has no weapons and our QB and receivers truly are this bad, then it is all on Muschamp and his recruiting.  However, Roper said this group could be effective, so why aren't they???  Let him prove it.

 

This offense is NOTHING like what Duke ran... Giving Roper the helm for the remainder of the season is his tryout.  Can his offense, without Muschamp's influence, work?  If it does, keep him.  If not, we start anew with a coaching staff.  

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