Tuesday, October 21, 2014

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Dooley: Unacceptable outcome

If Muschamp doesn't make it, that's still an if right now, we need a splash coach. 

We need a Nick Saban or a John Gruden.  UAA needs to step up and pay someone $5,000,000+ and know he will be successful.

No assistants, no trainees.  Just a good NFL coach with a proven track record.

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Platt
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 6:34 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Dooley: Unacceptable outcome

 

If the Gators won every game left on their schedule, I doubt Muschamp can save his job.  I know it, you know it, Muschamp knows it, and Foley knows it.  So it is just a matter of timing.  IMHO, there is no reason to fire coach now because I see no advantage to doing so.  Our offense is putrid because we have had 3 OC and 3 O-line coaches in four years and 4 WR coaches (2 elevated GA's) in 4 years.  No wonder our quarterbacks can't read defenses, our line can't block, and our receivers can't catch.  I fully acknowledge Muschamp is responsible for this and will pay with his job soon enough.  But this offense is so bad, I cannot see a single thing including firing Muschamp that could help it.  While I have accepted our fate for this year I am making my list of potential candidates as I am sure Foley has done or is doing.

 

So here is who I have come up with so far:

 

The Splash hires:

1) Jim Harbaugh

2) Jon Gruden

 

The Former Gators;

1) Joe Wickline

2) Kerwin Bell

3) Brian Schottenhiemer

 

The Retreads;

1) Bob Stoops

2) Steve Spurrier

 

Other Coaches;

1) Dan Mullen

2) Sumerlin (TXAM)

3) The guy at Michigan St (Donatello or something like that)

4) Rich Rodriquez

 

Okay I picked all the easy ones but I am sure there are others.  Either way I figure Foley is going to go with a big name splash coach or does he go back to the young up and coming coach.  Do you go long term or short term, I know this, I am glad I don't have to make the call.  I wonder if Foley will check with the bull gators this time around.

 

JAFO

 

 

Randy Platt

aka "PCGator"

aka "The Armchair Quarterback"

aka "The Other Randy"

 

Later Gators! Afterwhile the Rest!

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of C.Simpson
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:27 PM
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If Foley doesn't fire him now he must hold out hope he won't have to fire him at all.
Charlie


On 10/19/2014 8:29 PM, Sandy Alonso wrote:

I was under the impression UF's new president doesn't come on board until January.  I don't think the program can wait until then.

 

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Darlene Goodfellow <goodfellow4@earthlink.net> wrote:

One possible reason for the delay I've read in another forum is they may need the new president to come on board to approve buy outs and budget for new coaches. It's also possible there is something in his contract that reduces the buyout if we have a losing season. Still, it's getting so bad now I think they really need to act sooner rather than later.

 

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I think this is the perfect time to fire him midseason.  You have a bye week.  You have an offensive coordinator who WAS an upcoming and a head coach prospect.  Lose Muschamp, slap an interim head coach title on Roper, which effectively removes the handcuffs he has right now with Muschamp, and let Roper show what he can do.  If he truly has no weapons and our QB and receivers truly are this bad, then it is all on Muschamp and his recruiting.  However, Roper said this group could be effective, so why aren't they???  Let him prove it.

 

This offense is NOTHING like what Duke ran... Giving Roper the helm for the remainder of the season is his tryout.  Can his offense, without Muschamp's influence, work?  If it does, keep him.  If not, we start anew with a coaching staff.  

 

From: Rob Alexander <gator@autumnwood.us>
To: "gatortalk@googlegroups.com" <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:41 PM
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'What must be done eventually, should be done immediately.' Back in 2004, if Foley had just said 'it's time to pull the plug on this one,' then our anticipation now might not be so high, but he is the one who declared this a fundamental principle of his management style. It also makes sense, and so that creates expectations on the part of fans. Is there anyone left who thinks that Muschamp must not be fired sometime this year? If you're going to do it eventually, just go ahead and get it done so that everyone else can move forward. I hate that it has come to this, but it has.

 

Rob

 

 

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On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Darlene Goodfellow <goodfellow4@earthlink.net> wrote:

I know Dooley is just the sports editor at the hometown paper and NOT an official spokesperson for the athletic department, but telling fans to "simmer down" right now is not going over well, not at all. And there's no reason to wait any longer, per 2004 Jeremy Foley. This is another big mistake, IMO.

 

From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Bass
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:55 PM
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@pat_dooley: Try to enjoy the bye week. There will be no news next two weeks coming out of the UAA. So you can simmer down. For now.

Woody (via iPhone)


On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Jerry D. Belloit <belloit@clarion.edu> wrote:

I wish Dooley would tell us how he really feels!

"The smell of this performance is something the Gator fans in attendance won't be able to get out of their clothes for awhile. It was a rotten milk and burnt hair poured into a used diaper and left in the sun for a month."

 

Jerry

 

From: Shane Ford <goufgators@bellsouth.net>
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Date: Sunday, October 19, 2014 at 9:18 AM
To: GatorNews <gatornews@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]: Dooley: Unacceptable outcome

 

Dooley: Unacceptable outcome

 

Florida Gators head coach Will Muschamp on the sideline against the Missouri Tigers during the first half at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium on Saturday, Oct. 18, 2014 in Gainesville, Fla. (Matt Stamey/Staff photographer)

The Gainesville Sun

By Pat Dooley
Gainesville Sun sports columnist

Published: Saturday, October 18, 2014 at 6:01 a.m.
Last Modified: Sunday, October 19, 2014 at 12:17 a.m.

Before the season, there were a lot of people who thought Will Muschamp had to beat his alma mater to save his job.

But after what we witnessed Saturday night, I'm not sure the Georgia game will matter.

Let's put it this way — after Missouri's 42-13 thrashing of Florida, the Georgia Southern game from last year doesn't seem so bad.

The smell of this performance is something the Gator fans in attendance won't be able to get out of their clothes for awhile. It was a rotten milk and burnt hair poured into a used diaper and left in the sun for a month.

The facts are simple — Florida has lost 10 of its last 13 games, four out of it's last five SEC home games and has been dreadfully dull in doing so. Losing is never fun, but it's rare that it is this numbingly miserable.

Florida has been shut out in the first half of two of its last three games. On Saturday night, the Gators were dumpster-fire awful in two phases of the game (offense and special teams).

Florida lost to a team that was shut out at home last week, gained 20 yards in the second half Saturday night and had only seven first downs on the night. Florida turned it over six times to a team that came into the game with zero turnovers gained in SEC games.

Muschamp's insistence on sticking with Jeff Driskel has backfired so many times he's covered in gunpowder. Saturday night was the worst yet. I'm not saying Treon Harris is the answer after leading Florida to a pair of scores after the game had been decided.

I just know Driskel is not the answer and his performance over the last four games should eliminate him from consideration at the most important position on the team.

"The offense was just abysmal," Muschamp said. "We've got to narrow it down to things we do well and it's not much. So figure it out."

Wait. Weren't we told this offense had the most talent Muschamp has had at Florida before the season? And that Kurt Roper was going to be the answer for an offense that had been anemic for three years?

Here's what Florida is now that it wasn't under Brent Pease and Charlie Weis — a turnover machine.

Muschamp talked after the game about the turnovers, about how the blame falls on his shoulders and then proceeded to blame his players for their mistakes.

And there is no question that there has been a lot of underachieving by the players on this football team. But players are a reflection of their coaches.

Muschamp can blame Austin Hardin for not booting the opening kickoff in the right area of the field, but I recall seeing 10 players in blue jerseys running down the field and not laying a hand on Marcus Murphy.

He can blame the offensive line and his starting tailback but the starting quarterback was involved in four of the six UF turnovers.

Last week's loss could be attributed to bad luck. This was bad football.

I don't know if he can survive what has transpired over the last month starting with the debacle in Alabama. There isn't a person outside the football building who believes this can be turned around. And that means there will be three bad seasons in four tries for Muschamp.

That's unacceptable at Florida. Heck, it's unacceptable at South Florida.

Muschamp said he's not going to worry about things he can't control, such as his job security and apparently his quarterback's penchant for giving the ball to the other team. The chants of "Fire Muschamp!" were loud, the boos were plentiful and the stands emptied early.

The fan base has has enough. The ones who were ready to dump Muschamp after last season are screaming "I-told-you-so" with the decibel level rivaling that of sticking your head in a jet engine. Which would be less painful.

The ones who have stuck behind him are easing their way out of the back door of the room now that Muschamp is only one game over .500 in SEC games.

It's going to be an ugly bye week in the Gator Nation.

Contact Pat Dooley at 352-374-5053 or at dooleyp@gvillesun.com. And follow at Twitter.com/Pat_Dooley.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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