Wednesday, February 27, 2019

[gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] [AP/SUN]: 0-14 Vanderbilt awaits to ambush Florida

There is not one word about today's Gators/Commodores game in the Tennessean. 
There is a pretty long article about Vandy's football team. 
Also, an opinion about the LSU/Tennessee basketball game where LSU won in overtime due to a last second foul call. 

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Subject: [gatornews] [AP/SUN]:  0-14 Vanderbilt awaits to ambush Florida
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0-14 Vanderbilt awaits to ambush Florida

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Florida freshman forward Keyontae Johnson gets fouled by Vanderbilt forward Matt Ryan (32) during the Feb. 13 game at the O'Connell Center. The Gators won 66-57. [Lauren Bacho/Gainesville Sun]

WHO: Florida (16-11, 8-6) vs. Vanderbilt (9-18, 0-14)

WHERE: Memorial Gym, Nashville, Tennessee; Wednesday, 9 p.m. EST, SEC Network

BOTTOM LINE: Vanderbilt looks for its fifth straight win over Florida at Memorial Gym. The last victory for the Gators at Vanderbilt was a 57-54 win on Feb. 25, 2014.

FAB FRESHMEN: Florida's Andrew Nembhard, Keyontae Johnson and Noah Locke have collectively scored 38 percent of the team's points this season and have accounted for 44 percent of all Gators scoring over the last five games.

ACCURATE ALLEN: KeVaughn Allen has connected on 34.7 percent of the 147 3-pointers he's attempted and has gone 6 for 18 over his last three games. He's also made 88.5 percent of his foul shots this season.

WINLESS WHEN: Vanderbilt is 0-17 this year when it scores 75 points or fewer and 9-1 when it scores at least 76.

UNDEFEATED WHEN: Florida is a perfect 11-0 when it scores at least 71 points. The Gators are 5-11 when scoring any fewer than 71.

DID YOU KNOW: The Florida defense has allowed only 63.5 points per game to opponents, which is the 18th-best mark in the country. The Vanderbilt offense has averaged just 70.7 points through 27 games (ranked 211th among Division I teams).





























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Tuesday, February 19, 2019

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: With UF contract extension in back pocket, Grantham turns down NFL’s Bengals

On the surface, this looks reasonable.  However, Most AAs actually lose money. 

 

It is always interesting to see this topic come up every few years. I know that some of you have very strong feelings about the fairness of the players not being paid something beyond their current levels (tuition, room, board, and some incidental expense money). However, it is important to realize that increasing funding for student athletes would only widen the losses of the average university on their athletic programs. In 2016, the median FBS Division I school lost over 14 million dollars. Even some larger programs lost money (Auburn). If you are interested in the NCAA report on net revenues, it may be found at http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2017RES_D1-RevExp_Entire_2017_Final_20180123.pdf.

 

 

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Billions of dollars of revenue being generated. Give the players a flat percentage of all revenues generated like they do in the NBA or NFL say 40 or 50% and everything is fair. Everyone wins. Theses players are out here risking serious injury and getting pennies. Completely unfair. 

 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 8:27 AM Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com> wrote:

Not meant to engage in an argument, but just to point out facts...

 

In state tuition is $6,380 / yr 

Out of state tuition is $28,659 / yr

 

Plus, Books and supplies, computer, housing, and food on top of that.  

 

The players also get an annual stipend.  I can't find what UF is giving its players.  F$U is giving in-state athletes $4,500 and out of state  athletes $6,000.  I would imagine that UF's stipend is more with the SEC revenue behind the university AD. 

 

Go Gators!

 

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On Feb 15, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Foley Santamaria <foleysantamaria@gmail.com> wrote:

1.8 million to pay a defensive coordinator but no money to pay the players?

 

As Future said, it is an evil world we live in. Pathetic 

 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 6:07 AM Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com> wrote:

With UF contract extension in back pocket, Grantham turns down NFL's Bengals

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http://3boxml133uq12y8y9x34hnqo.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/03172018-GAI_SpringPracticeD240-696x533.jpgUF defensive coordinator Todd Grantham had signed a contract extension Jan. 14. His contract was extended through the 2021 season with an annual salary of $1.79 million. [Brad McClenny/Staff photographer]

In anticipation of other schools or the NFL coming after Todd Grantham, Florida athletic director Scott Stricklin gave the veteran defensive coordinator a contract extension and raise in January, shortly after the Gators' victory in the Peach Bowl.

Stricklin's preemptive strike turned out to be a timely move and may have been a factor in Grantham's decision Wednesday to turn down the Cincinnati Bengals offer to become their defensive coordinator.

Instead of moving on to the NFL, Grantham is staying at Florida, which has extended his contract through the 2021 season and will pay him an annual salary of $1.79 million, making him the fifth-highest paid defensive coordinator in college football.

Sources said Grantham's family weighed heavily in his decision to remain in Gainesville, where his son plays football at Buchholz High School.

His original contract ran through the 2020 season and would have paid him $1.5 million in 2019 and $1.6 million in 2020.

In his new contract that was signed Jan. 14, Grantham's buyout if he chooses to leave would be 50 percent of the remaining value of his contact. Under his old contract, the buyout was only 20 percent.

With the new contract, the only college defensive coordinators making more than Grantham are Dave Aranda (LSU), Brent Venables (Clemson), Kevin Steel (Auburn) and Mile Elko (Texas A&M).

In his first season at Florida (and second under Dan Mullen), Grantham's defense finished 20th in the nation in scoring defense (20.0 points a game) last season and produced an SEC-high 26 turnovers. The Gators gave up just 343.3 yards a game and recorded 37 sacks.

Grantham met with the Bengals on Tuesday and again Wednesday and was offered the defensive coordinator position, but he informed Mullen late Wednesday that he was remaining at Florida.

Grantham has coached with four NFL teams in the past — Dallas, Cleveland, Houston and Indianapolis.

He was the defensive coordinator for the Browns in 2005-07. He was the defensive line coach for the Cowboys, Texans and Colts.

















 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Friday, February 15, 2019

RE: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: With UF contract extension in back pocket, Grantham turns down NFL’s Bengals

We wouldn't kill Vanderbilt. They have plenty of money to pay players. They are just too cheap.

It would probably kill Mississippi State, though.

 

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On Feb 15, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Foley Santamaria <foleysantamaria@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Billions of dollars of revenue being generated. Give the players a flat percentage of all revenues generated like they do in the NBA or NFL say 40 or 50% and everything is fair. Everyone wins. Theses players are out here risking serious injury and getting pennies. Completely unfair. 

 

I've never really seen it as an issue of right or wrong or what players deserve.

 

UF can afford to pay our players something decent. Let's day that a player needs about $15,000 a year above room and board to be normal student. Our daughter was pre-paid at Florida, and that's about what we spent each year on top of tuition and housing. 

 

My issues are twofold.

 

1. UF and a handful of colleges can afford this. Most can not. Most athletic departments lose money. If only a handful of colleges could afford this type of payment, then competition for those scholarships would be insane. The top twenty classes would never change, it would be the same schools that can spend 1.2 million on the players without blinking.

 

2. Title IX. Colleges need to keep matters relatively balanced between men's and women's sports. Whether a sport is revenue neutral, positive or loses money is not relevant. How much the school spends on each sport is the criteria. Very quickly, all athletes would need to be paid the same stipend. This may not be a bad thing, and - again - UF could afford it. But, that 1.2 million just turned into 5 million. Now the top athletes in all sports will be going to the same 20 or schools that can afford it. We will have just killed Vanderbilt's athletics, I would wager.

 

So, for this to work, we would need a mechanism for all athletes to receive an equal and significant stipend. It can't be a percentage of revenue generated without violating Title IX, given that football produces significantly more than any other sport.

 

Who to administer this stipend? The NCAA? Thats seems logical, but a bit scary to give it that much additional power.

 

-Zeb

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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: With UF contract extension in back pocket, Grantham turns down NFL’s Bengals

 You do realize that over the course of a 4 yr period over 200k is invested in college athletes right?  They have a significant  financial advantage over most of their peers when they graduate and they are afforded more resources to help with their education than most college students get.  Increase their stipend.. sure... PAY them above that?  No.  Absolutely not.

Woody

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 12:44 PM Foley Santamaria <foleysantamaria@gmail.com> wrote:
Billions of dollars of revenue being generated. Give the players a flat percentage of all revenues generated like they do in the NBA or NFL say 40 or 50% and everything is fair. Everyone wins. Theses players are out here risking serious injury and getting pennies. Completely unfair. 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 8:27 AM Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com> wrote:
Not meant to engage in an argument, but just to point out facts...

In state tuition is $6,380 / yr 
Out of state tuition is $28,659 / yr

Plus, Books and supplies, computer, housing, and food on top of that.  

The players also get an annual stipend.  I can't find what UF is giving its players.  F$U is giving in-state athletes $4,500 and out of state  athletes $6,000.  I would imagine that UF's stipend is more with the SEC revenue behind the university AD. 

Go Gators!

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On Feb 15, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Foley Santamaria <foleysantamaria@gmail.com> wrote:

1.8 million to pay a defensive coordinator but no money to pay the players?

As Future said, it is an evil world we live in. Pathetic 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 6:07 AM Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com> wrote:

With UF contract extension in back pocket, Grantham turns down NFL's Bengals

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UF defensive coordinator Todd Grantham had signed a contract extension Jan. 14. His contract was extended through the 2021 season with an annual salary of $1.79 million. [Brad McClenny/Staff photographer]

In anticipation of other schools or the NFL coming after Todd Grantham, Florida athletic director Scott Stricklin gave the veteran defensive coordinator a contract extension and raise in January, shortly after the Gators' victory in the Peach Bowl.

Stricklin's preemptive strike turned out to be a timely move and may have been a factor in Grantham's decision Wednesday to turn down the Cincinnati Bengals offer to become their defensive coordinator.

Instead of moving on to the NFL, Grantham is staying at Florida, which has extended his contract through the 2021 season and will pay him an annual salary of $1.79 million, making him the fifth-highest paid defensive coordinator in college football.

Sources said Grantham's family weighed heavily in his decision to remain in Gainesville, where his son plays football at Buchholz High School.

His original contract ran through the 2020 season and would have paid him $1.5 million in 2019 and $1.6 million in 2020.

In his new contract that was signed Jan. 14, Grantham's buyout if he chooses to leave would be 50 percent of the remaining value of his contact. Under his old contract, the buyout was only 20 percent.

With the new contract, the only college defensive coordinators making more than Grantham are Dave Aranda (LSU), Brent Venables (Clemson), Kevin Steel (Auburn) and Mile Elko (Texas A&M).

In his first season at Florida (and second under Dan Mullen), Grantham's defense finished 20th in the nation in scoring defense (20.0 points a game) last season and produced an SEC-high 26 turnovers. The Gators gave up just 343.3 yards a game and recorded 37 sacks.

Grantham met with the Bengals on Tuesday and again Wednesday and was offered the defensive coordinator position, but he informed Mullen late Wednesday that he was remaining at Florida.

Grantham has coached with four NFL teams in the past — Dallas, Cleveland, Houston and Indianapolis.

He was the defensive coordinator for the Browns in 2005-07. He was the defensive line coach for the Cowboys, Texans and Colts.






























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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: With UF contract extension in back pocket, Grantham turns down NFL’s Bengals



On Feb 15, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Foley Santamaria <foleysantamaria@gmail.com> wrote:

Billions of dollars of revenue being generated. Give the players a flat percentage of all revenues generated like they do in the NBA or NFL say 40 or 50% and everything is fair. Everyone wins. Theses players are out here risking serious injury and getting pennies. Completely unfair. 

I've never really seen it as an issue of right or wrong or what players deserve.

UF can afford to pay our players something decent. Let's day that a player needs about $15,000 a year above room and board to be normal student. Our daughter was pre-paid at Florida, and that's about what we spent each year on top of tuition and housing. 

My issues are twofold.

1. UF and a handful of colleges can afford this. Most can not. Most athletic departments lose money. If only a handful of colleges could afford this type of payment, then competition for those scholarships would be insane. The top twenty classes would never change, it would be the same schools that can spend 1.2 million on the players without blinking.

2. Title IX. Colleges need to keep matters relatively balanced between men's and women's sports. Whether a sport is revenue neutral, positive or loses money is not relevant. How much the school spends on each sport is the criteria. Very quickly, all athletes would need to be paid the same stipend. This may not be a bad thing, and - again - UF could afford it. But, that 1.2 million just turned into 5 million. Now the top athletes in all sports will be going to the same 20 or schools that can afford it. We will have just killed Vanderbilt's athletics, I would wager.

So, for this to work, we would need a mechanism for all athletes to receive an equal and significant stipend. It can't be a percentage of revenue generated without violating Title IX, given that football produces significantly more than any other sport.

Who to administer this stipend? The NCAA? Thats seems logical, but a bit scary to give it that much additional power.

-Zeb

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: With UF contract extension in back pocket, Grantham turns down NFL’s Bengals

Billions of dollars of revenue being generated. Give the players a flat percentage of all revenues generated like they do in the NBA or NFL say 40 or 50% and everything is fair. Everyone wins. Theses players are out here risking serious injury and getting pennies. Completely unfair. 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 8:27 AM Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com> wrote:
Not meant to engage in an argument, but just to point out facts...

In state tuition is $6,380 / yr 
Out of state tuition is $28,659 / yr

Plus, Books and supplies, computer, housing, and food on top of that.  

The players also get an annual stipend.  I can't find what UF is giving its players.  F$U is giving in-state athletes $4,500 and out of state  athletes $6,000.  I would imagine that UF's stipend is more with the SEC revenue behind the university AD. 

Go Gators!

Shane

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On Feb 15, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Foley Santamaria <foleysantamaria@gmail.com> wrote:

1.8 million to pay a defensive coordinator but no money to pay the players?

As Future said, it is an evil world we live in. Pathetic 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 6:07 AM Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com> wrote:

With UF contract extension in back pocket, Grantham turns down NFL's Bengals

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UF defensive coordinator Todd Grantham had signed a contract extension Jan. 14. His contract was extended through the 2021 season with an annual salary of $1.79 million. [Brad McClenny/Staff photographer]

In anticipation of other schools or the NFL coming after Todd Grantham, Florida athletic director Scott Stricklin gave the veteran defensive coordinator a contract extension and raise in January, shortly after the Gators' victory in the Peach Bowl.

Stricklin's preemptive strike turned out to be a timely move and may have been a factor in Grantham's decision Wednesday to turn down the Cincinnati Bengals offer to become their defensive coordinator.

Instead of moving on to the NFL, Grantham is staying at Florida, which has extended his contract through the 2021 season and will pay him an annual salary of $1.79 million, making him the fifth-highest paid defensive coordinator in college football.

Sources said Grantham's family weighed heavily in his decision to remain in Gainesville, where his son plays football at Buchholz High School.

His original contract ran through the 2020 season and would have paid him $1.5 million in 2019 and $1.6 million in 2020.

In his new contract that was signed Jan. 14, Grantham's buyout if he chooses to leave would be 50 percent of the remaining value of his contact. Under his old contract, the buyout was only 20 percent.

With the new contract, the only college defensive coordinators making more than Grantham are Dave Aranda (LSU), Brent Venables (Clemson), Kevin Steel (Auburn) and Mile Elko (Texas A&M).

In his first season at Florida (and second under Dan Mullen), Grantham's defense finished 20th in the nation in scoring defense (20.0 points a game) last season and produced an SEC-high 26 turnovers. The Gators gave up just 343.3 yards a game and recorded 37 sacks.

Grantham met with the Bengals on Tuesday and again Wednesday and was offered the defensive coordinator position, but he informed Mullen late Wednesday that he was remaining at Florida.

Grantham has coached with four NFL teams in the past — Dallas, Cleveland, Houston and Indianapolis.

He was the defensive coordinator for the Browns in 2005-07. He was the defensive line coach for the Cowboys, Texans and Colts.






























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Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: With UF contract extension in back pocket, Grantham turns down NFL’s Bengals

Not meant to engage in an argument, but just to point out facts...

In state tuition is $6,380 / yr 
Out of state tuition is $28,659 / yr

Plus, Books and supplies, computer, housing, and food on top of that.  

The players also get an annual stipend.  I can't find what UF is giving its players.  F$U is giving in-state athletes $4,500 and out of state  athletes $6,000.  I would imagine that UF's stipend is more with the SEC revenue behind the university AD. 

Go Gators!

Shane

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On Feb 15, 2019, at 10:16 AM, Foley Santamaria <foleysantamaria@gmail.com> wrote:

1.8 million to pay a defensive coordinator but no money to pay the players?

As Future said, it is an evil world we live in. Pathetic 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 6:07 AM Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com> wrote:

With UF contract extension in back pocket, Grantham turns down NFL's Bengals

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UF defensive coordinator Todd Grantham had signed a contract extension Jan. 14. His contract was extended through the 2021 season with an annual salary of $1.79 million. [Brad McClenny/Staff photographer]

In anticipation of other schools or the NFL coming after Todd Grantham, Florida athletic director Scott Stricklin gave the veteran defensive coordinator a contract extension and raise in January, shortly after the Gators' victory in the Peach Bowl.

Stricklin's preemptive strike turned out to be a timely move and may have been a factor in Grantham's decision Wednesday to turn down the Cincinnati Bengals offer to become their defensive coordinator.

Instead of moving on to the NFL, Grantham is staying at Florida, which has extended his contract through the 2021 season and will pay him an annual salary of $1.79 million, making him the fifth-highest paid defensive coordinator in college football.

Sources said Grantham's family weighed heavily in his decision to remain in Gainesville, where his son plays football at Buchholz High School.

His original contract ran through the 2020 season and would have paid him $1.5 million in 2019 and $1.6 million in 2020.

In his new contract that was signed Jan. 14, Grantham's buyout if he chooses to leave would be 50 percent of the remaining value of his contact. Under his old contract, the buyout was only 20 percent.

With the new contract, the only college defensive coordinators making more than Grantham are Dave Aranda (LSU), Brent Venables (Clemson), Kevin Steel (Auburn) and Mile Elko (Texas A&M).

In his first season at Florida (and second under Dan Mullen), Grantham's defense finished 20th in the nation in scoring defense (20.0 points a game) last season and produced an SEC-high 26 turnovers. The Gators gave up just 343.3 yards a game and recorded 37 sacks.

Grantham met with the Bengals on Tuesday and again Wednesday and was offered the defensive coordinator position, but he informed Mullen late Wednesday that he was remaining at Florida.

Grantham has coached with four NFL teams in the past — Dallas, Cleveland, Houston and Indianapolis.

He was the defensive coordinator for the Browns in 2005-07. He was the defensive line coach for the Cowboys, Texans and Colts.






























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