Why do you say she suddenly forgot who the attacker was? I have seen semi fan hype claiming she knew him, but everything from the alleged victims camp has said she had no prior relationship or knowledge of him.This is an ugly situation, it is either a false accusation or a heinous crime, at a minimum there is a large dose of LEO misconduct (how do you not send the rapemkit to the SAO?). After the Duke lacrosse scandal, I will reserve judgement on both parties until more facts come out.And unfortunately, I wish our fans would too and not make this an issue at the game this week. Rape is not something to make fun of or use as a tool to smack talk an opponent. Instead of "No means No", how about "Will must Go-oo-oo-oo" ( of course that would be wrong too, as he clearly deserves another year or four).
Ken KMNGator--Personally, I can't see anything happening to him, but I may be wrong. I seems clear that she changed her mind by the time the cops got there and suddenly forgot who the attacker was or his description. However, if that is not the case and a crime occurred he should be held accountable. It is a mess and I hope justice is served.
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Subject: RE: [gatortalk] So, let's just say Muschamp ISN'T going anywhere after next Saturday's bloodbath...
It would be nice if Jameis is suspended by then.
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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Edgar Clarke
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 4:55 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] So, let's just say Muschamp ISN'T going anywhere after next Saturday's bloodbath...
Foley is in a tough position regarding WM but it will be easier if Gators can play the Semies as well as they did the Cocks.
Gatortc
From: Sandy Alonso <sandyalonso66@gmail.com>;
To: <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>;
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] So, let's just say Muschamp ISN'T going anywhere after next Saturday's bloodbath...
Sent: Sun, Nov 24, 2013 10:46:07 PM
I think you're right, Jay, about the mental issue on the defense and what has caused it. I think that might be what Muschamp was alluding to when he said the play of the offense has infected the whole team.
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Jay Cicone <Jay.Cicone@raymondjames.com> wrote:
I feel the defense is a mental issue. Could be wrong and it is the coaches respobsibility to get them ready, but an offense that can't score enough to win will break a defense over the course of a season.
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [gatortalk@googlegroups.com] on behalf of C.Simpson [ces1948@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 4:11 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] So, let's just say Muschamp ISN'T going anywhere after next Saturday's bloodbath...
The whole team is a mess, offense, defense and special teams.
On 11/24/2013 3:48 PM, Jay Cicone wrote:I've been saying that this is like Spurrier and Stoops. Bring in a team to run the offense and let them do it. Mus can get his hands in the defense if he wants to. As far as developing talent, we are looking at a multiyear project. Can coach Mus have that long??? Is 8-4 next year going to be good enough?
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [gatortalk@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Woody [gatorrrrrr@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 3:45 PM
To: Gatortalk
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] So, let's just say Muschamp ISN'T going anywhere after next Saturday's bloodbath...Our next OC absolutely must beyond all else... have proven ability to ****develop**** talent... not just be able to call a good game plan.
That is what has been missing.. even when Meyer was at UF.
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Woody <gatorrrrrr@gmail.com> wrote:
I think MustChomp knows... (hopefully) that he's gonna have to really change his philosophy on how to run his offense.
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Jay Cicone <Jay.Cicone@raymondjames.com> wrote:
I agree that the OC and O line coaches need to be the first ones out of there.
From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [gatortalk@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Woody [gatorrrrrr@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 3:28 PM
To: Gatortalk
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] So, let's just say Muschamp ISN'T going anywhere after next Saturday's bloodbath...I think its safe to say OC and probably O-line coach is gone atleast. I think Choate is fine... rememeber he kinda came in late so he didnt really have Spring to work with anyone.
No to Kerwin.. I have said that 1,000,000,000,000 times and will continue to do so until I am even more orange and blue in the face.
Ive also heard ppl suggesting Joker take over as OC... Um.. No. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I think we can do better than Jimmy Ray for Oline... who? Im not sure... would need to think on it.. but I dont think they have to be a Gator.
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Sandy Alonso <sandyalonso66@gmail.com> wrote:
There's going to HAVE to be a change in OC, special teams coach, O-line coach, and maybe even DC (not sure about that). Lots of criticism from some regarding hiring Kerwin Bell, saying he's not really that "proven" even at JU. So, what does everyone think about hiring on a different Gator, one without a job currently - Mike Mularkey.
As for O-line, I'd love to see Jimmy Ray Stephens come back. Special teams have been so NOT special, I'd even accept Zook at that position.
What do y'all think?
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