Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] Around college football: How good is the Florida job?

That's what I am really hoping for. I get that we won't win every every game, or a championship every year, but I want a competitive team that looks competent in all three phases of the game. Give me that and I'll take the ups and downs as they happen.

Rob

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On Nov 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Oliver Barry <oliver@bobparks.com> wrote:

Perhaps we'll get back to competency in the coaching department with our next hire.

 

An Auburn friend asked me today if I'd heard Muschamp was going to Auburn as DC.

Without batting an eye I told him I'd heard Malzahn had called Foley begging for the job.

Auburn fan ran away…

 

Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI

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I set my expectations based on the coaches expectations.   They are the ones that come out and say we should be competing for championships (division, conference or national).  Saying we are competing for them and winning are two different things.

 

You will always find fans that are upset at anything less than a national title, likewise you will always find fans that can see the silver lining in losing to a GA Southern.  The vast majority of the fans are much more rational than that and are happy competing with a competently coached team.  You win some and you lose some, just stop losing the ones we already won!

Ken K

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On Nov 21, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Woody <gatorrrrrr@gmail.com> wrote:

There are unrealistic fans in almost all successful programs..  thats the nature of the beast.

 

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 1:41 PM, C.Simpson <imagator@outlook.com> wrote:

From experiences on other fan boards I believe that LSU, Auburn, Tennessee, Ohio St and Texas are on the same level as UF fans. There is little difference in unrealistic expectations from what I've seen. Some LSU fans wanted to fire Miles after their shutout loss at Arkansas.
Charlie

On 11/21/2014 1:29 PM, mail.bobparks.com wrote:

The season they were talking about was Spurrier's last. We lost 2 games and won the Orange Bowl. Many were acting like it was a failure of a season. A failure!

If that isn't unrealistic I don't know what is. 

We had members of this group who actually said we were a failure if we didn't win the SEC every year. Yes, we are unrealistic. 

Now, Alabama, etc. are also unrealistic.  But, I'm not so sure they're as bad as UF fans. 

Oliver Barry, CRS, GRI, SFR

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Bob Parks, LLC

145 Maple Row Blvd

Hendersonville TN 37075

Mobile: 615-972-4239

Office: 615-826-4040 

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On Nov 21, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Rob Alexander <gator@autumnwood.us> wrote:

Nonsense! 

 

I can buy the discussion of our facilities, because it is an objective thing you can look at. It appears that we are falling behind some of our rival schools in some areas, and it's objectively true that we do not have an indoor practice field. That probably should make us a bit less attractive.

 

However, I am tired of hearing that our fans have unrealistic expectations. Do these mystery insiders really expect us to believe that fans of Alabama, Texas, USCwest, and Ohio State do NOT have expectations that their teams will be competing for championships? Ever? Would any of those fans really be happy, even if 11-2, with a keystone cops offense that was ranked 105th in the country? Were we supposed to really be happy that we 'almost' played for a national championship (which was about as 'almost' as how we almost played for the SEC championship this year)? The facts are that we 1) didn't play for a national championship that year (and didn't deserve to), 2) we didn't play for the SEC championship that year, and 3) we lost our bowl game in an embarrassing fashion. Would those other teams' fans really have been happy with that team, that offense, and that season?

 

So here's some shocking news to prospective head coaches. Don't come here if you think it is unreasonable for fans to expect that you will be in the mix for the SEC East every year, that you will win it every couple or three years, and that you will win the SEC sometimes, which would also likely put us in the playoff. Especially don't come here if you think it's unreasonable for the fans to want a team that looks competent and well-coached on offense, defense and special teams, whether they win or lose any particular game.

 

Anyone who says that Alabama, Texas, USCwest, and Ohio State fans do not have comparable expectations is full of it! 

 

Rob

 

 

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On Nov 21, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Woody <gatorrrrrr@gmail.com> wrote:

Expectations are another issue. Though clearly some things didn't work for Muschamp, the fan base extended him very little goodwill for the 2012 season when he went 11-2 and nearly played for a national title. And that's at a program with a moderate track record of success prior to Steve Spurrier's arrival in 1990.

"Spurrier was asked what went wrong at the end of a 10-2 season and he lost his (expletive) and left," one person said. "Now it's become a place where competing and winning isn't enough, you have to be playing for championships, so there's a lot of pressure."

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