Tuesday, December 16, 2014

Re: [gatortalk] A friend just sent me this : Coaching rumors..

Actually it is pretty reasonable nowdays.  Because of the references, and community feedback, errors are usually quickly corrected.  In this case, the blurb I published is backed up by the NCAA investigation AND the court's ruling against Miami when Miami refused to pay his contract because they thought he had violated the NCAA rules.  The court ruled against Miami.

I am not a Shannon supporter or detractor.  He would have given us better access to South Florida.

Jerry

From: Oliver Barry <oliver@bobparks.com>
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Date: Monday, December 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM
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Subject: RE: [gatortalk] A friend just sent me this : Coaching rumors..

But, it's in Wikipedia, a publically updated encyclopedia.  Surely it must be true!

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 2:25 PM
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
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Cmon. Do you REALLLLLLY believe that EVERYONE But Shannon somehow was part of that drama? I ain't buying that one bit.

On Dec 15, 2014 3:22 PM, "Jerry D. Belloit" <belloit@clarion.edu> wrote:

"Although he left Miami with an unremarkable win-loss record by the program's previous standards, Shannon still left a significant legacy at the program. He guided the school to the third-best Academic Progress Rate in NCAA Division I FBS. In his four-year tenure at Miami, only a single player was arrested. Perhaps most significantly, he was apparently untainted by the scandal that engulfed the program in the 2011 season, as he avoided contact with Nevin Shapiro, the rogue booster who admitted to providing massive amounts of improper benefits to Miami players from 2002 to 2010. Sports Illustrated writer Alexander Wolff, in an August 2011 open letter to university president Donna Shalala, noted that Shannon "seems to have been the only person in Coral Gables who wanted nothing to do with Shapiro, reportedly warning his players to avoid him and threatening to fire assistants caught dealing with him."

 

From wikipedia

 

Jerry

 

From: Darlene Goodfellow <goodfellow4@earthlink.net>
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Date: Monday, December 15, 2014 at 2:51 PM
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He's badmouthed us every chance he has gotten, and on top of that, he was the bag man in passing illegal money for the Miami posse to their players. Both of those should preclude him from ever being a coach at UF. After Aubrey Hill and Joker Phillips, I seriously doubt UF would take a chance on him.

 

From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry D. Belloit
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 2:25 PM
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I would not take this as a grudge.  History has shown that he was right about some of the craziness that went on during Urban Meyer's term.  My old feeble memory cannot recall the details but I do remember a football player getting in trouble discharging a hunting rifle about that time.  

 

My comment on the kicking the field goal was directed at an issue with Urban Meyer.  BTW, Shannon DID shake Urban Meyers hand after the game.  He did leave quickly and was probably a little angry about the field goal.

 

Jerry

 

From: Darlene Goodfellow <goodfellow4@earthlink.net>
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Date: Monday, December 15, 2014 at 2:11 PM
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http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2007/11/shannon-misspok.html

 

 

From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jerry D. Belloit
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 2:08 PM
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Against Florida or Urban Meyer?

 

Jerry

 

From: Woody <gatorrrrrr@gmail.com>
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Date: Monday, December 15, 2014 at 2:06 PM
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He has a serious grudge against UF. he REALLLLLLY didn't like that last field goal last time they were in the Swamp

On Dec 15, 2014 1:58 PM, "Darlene Goodfellow" <goodfellow4@earthlink.net> wrote:

I have a hard time taking anything about Randy Shannon coming to Gainesville seriously, and it was not warmly received by any of the Gator message boards I read this on. I mean, not just the NCAA stuff, but outright slander regarding UF as well.

 

From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Alonso
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:54 PM
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It will be interesting to see how big Coach Mac's staff is.  Per Doug Johnson last week on WRUF, he "knows for a fact" that Coach Mac told Foley that if he wants to compete with the likes of Alabama, Mac will need the same size organization as Saban.  I was always under some kind of impression there was a limit to how big the staff could be (per NCAA rules), but again, that's just an impression.  So I'm very curious to see what the new structure will look like.

Apparently Doug Johnson knows Coach Mac through a mutual friend.

 

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Jerry D. Belloit <belloit@clarion.edu> wrote:

Here is what was posted on GatorCountry by their recruiting Guru, Andy Spivey

"Sorry for the delay in me posting this update but I was trying to track down some more info so here's what I got so far.

?         T-Rob is telling his players and parents that he wants to stay at Florida but right now his concern is who will be the coaches on the defensive side of the ball next year. He wants to work with someone that he's comfortable with and someone that trust him so right now I think we are all waiting to see who Mac hires for the defensive side of the ball. 

?         The good news is that T-Rob and McElwain like each other and they got along great on the recruiting trail last week so that's a plus for Florida.

?         I can tell you that T-Rob isn't not recruiting for Auburn or whatever the rumor going around was. T-Rob isn't that kind of person plus Mac would let him go today if that was true. 

?         Right now I think it's 50/50 on whether or not he stays.

?         Right now I believe that both Durkin and Lawing will NOT be back next year. I think Lawing will return to South Carolina and eventually retire up there. Lawing is a different guy and he wants to work with people he knows so returning to Carolina is his best option at this point.

?         I honestly have no clue where Durkin will go. I'm guessing maybe Muschamp offers him or job but that's just a guess.

?         As I posted earlier today the word is that Mac has told Mike Summers that he will kept on staff next year and the two feel comfortable with each other.

?         One name to keep an eye on is Arkansas linebacker coach Randy Shannon as his name was brought up to me today about being a potential hire. Shannon is a solid recruiter in South Florida."

Jerry

 

From: Jay Cicone <Jay.Cicone@RaymondJames.com>
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Date: Monday, December 15, 2014 at 1:07 PM
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Pelini needs a job---not---plenty of buyout cash in his pocket.

 

From:gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:06 PM
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I dont see Doug Nussmeier coming on board plus I heard he may be OC at Nebraska..  From what I have been told.. Napier is considered Coach Macs protege' of sorts and is a big reason for Amari Coopers success.

 

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Jay Cicone <Jay.Cicone@raymondjames.com> wrote:

 

Since we're all just sitting around waiting for the staff to be announced I thought we may as well kill some time discussing some of the rumors that are out there...

Head Coach - Coach Mac

Appears to be a good hire.  Proven offensive mind, has developed QB's, can recruit, and has seen first hand what you need to do to win in the SEC, having won a few championships at Bama as their OC.  

OC - Doug Nussmeier

If true, ole Dougie's going to draw some criticism among Gator fans due to his most recent history at Bama and Michigan.  I would like to think that maybe he's just a victim of bad timing and circumstances.  He is close with Coach Mac, brings a lot of experience as an OC, coached in the SEC at Bama, and was obviously well thought of enough to be offered the jobs to begin with.  Given our head coach will be very involved in the offense I think this is one area Mac can afford to take a chance on.  

CoOC/Receivers Coach - Billy Nappier

If true, this would be a homerun hire.  Nappier's a proven receivers coach, ace recruiter, has worked with Mac in the past, and our gain would be Bama's loss.  The CoOC title makes sense because that's what it would take to steal him away from Bama.

OL Coach - Mike Summers

If true, it would be nice to have some consistency there, given the circumstances the past few years.  Not known as a great recruiter, but is a proven line coach, who's done a nice job at Florida so far.

RB Coach - Irvin or Harriott

If true, both have the potential to be great recruiters - especially in South Florida, where RB's grow on trees.  Great backs are not something you typically teach, so this is one position we can afford to take a chance on and look to hire an ace recruiter.  

 

DC - Sal Sunseri

If true, like Doug, this hire would draw the ire of a lot of Gator fans due to his awful stint at Tennessee.  He is a great guy, excellent recruiter, proven position coach, knows Mac, and our gain would be FSU's loss.  His lack of success at Tennessee as a DC was hopefully more a result of him walking into a situation where he had very little to work with and he was only there one season.  Given our head coach is an offensive minded coach, I would think that if it's Sal we are going to have to make a run at another proven defensive minded coach to help take some of the burden off.  

DB Coach/Recruiting Coordinator - TRob

If true, let's hope his promotion consists of taking over recruiting responsibilities and all defensive backs.  He's a CoDC candidate with a proven DC, but not someone like Sal.  Proven CB's Coach and our best recruiter, but our primary contact to South Florida - which is very important.  He and Nappier would kill it down there.

DL Coach - Tosh Lupoi

If true, depending on who our DC is, this could be another homerun hire.  Nice track record as a line coach, but more importantly he's another beast on the recruiting trail.  This would be another one of those our gain would be Bama's loss.  One of the advantages of Bama loading up on the coaching front is there's a log jam now and guys like Lupoi are there for the taking.  

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