Re: [gatortalk] Expansion mania

I got your point and you're right. It would make the conference too big in a lot of respects. More difficult to govern, more difficult to reign in recruiting violations. 

The PAC 10 started this whole ball rolling when they first talked a out going to 16 teams. Now, if that happens and the Big 10 also goes to 16 teams it will change how conferences are perceived and possibly how they are managed. Then...  It might work. 

It still sucks. It's probably a twenty hour drive from Nashville to College Station. That will make it pretty tough to have a rivalry with A&M for me. The drive from Florida to Missouri is worse. You'd really have to hate someone to drive that far for a game.  

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On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:57 PM, Rob Alexander <gator@autumnwood.us> wrote:

Well, sure, the number 16 can be divided in half twice and the number 14 can't, but there is no organization of 16 teams that gets you around the problem I am talking about -- at least, not  without increasing the total games in a season or decreasing the non-conference games. Four divisions sound clever on paper, but it doesn't change the fact that there will be teams in your conference that you don't play more often than once in a decade (even less frequently under your plan). When you consider what a conference is -- a group of teams you play regularly, and thereby develop rivalries with -- then it wouldn't really be a single conference anymore, and teams and fans would stop caring about those in the other division. If we stop playing west teams in the season, and our only involvement with the west is that the east champion plays them for the championship, then it's a post-season relationship, not a conference relationship. The four-division idea would just exacerbate that. If we do ever go to 16 teams, then remember that you heard it here first. The conference will split within 15 years.

Rob

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On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:57 AM, "Jerry D. Belloit" <belloit@clarion.edu> wrote:

Actually 16 teams would be easier to schedule.  You would break the 16 teams into four divisions.  Two Eastern divisions and Two Western Divisions.  Each division champion would play in the first round of the SEC playoffs.  The East and West Champions would play for the title.  This could actually allow for playing more teams from other conferences.

 

Jerry

 

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The weird thing is that nobody writing about this seems to recognize the limitations inherent in the number of games we play. With our two new members, we're already down to two western division opponents a year. If you do home-and-home with West teams, you'd be about 12 years between playing any particular team. Even with one-game matchups, it's 6 years. At that rate, the SEC West is already barely the same conference as us. Add two more teams and you'll effectively make two separate 8-team conferences. If we played everyone from our own division, we'd only be able to play one team from the other division each year. It's hard to keep rivalries going when you only play a team once every 8 years. Everyone says it would be a super-conference, but I think it would eventually collapse under its own weight and would just end up as two conferences.

Rob

 

 

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On May 31, 2012, at 4:29 PM, "John Bowers" <jbowers4@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

Why SEC Must Consider Eastern Expansion Now

 

Why not just add EVERY DAMN TEAM in America to the SEC?  Get it over with.  We'll have all the money, all the TV, all the everything.  Hell with everyone else.

Add Ohio State, THAT would piss Urban Meyer off!  Hey Urban, welcome to the SEC!  Heard of us?

 

Seriously, add two more teams before A&M and Mizzou have played at all?  That's crazy.  Pretty soon the Gators will take the field and we'll look across at the fans of the other team and say "are they in the SEC with us?  Anybody know?"

 

Bueller?

 

JB

 

 

 

 

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