Monday, July 29, 2019

[gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] [SUN]: Keeping the faith: Gators showered with blessings

"Lord, we pray they have a banner year this year," King said.
Amen!! Go Gators!!

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From: Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com>
Date: July 28, 2019 at 9:03:19 PM CDT
To: GatorNews <gatornews@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]:  Keeping the faith: Gators showered with blessings
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"Lord, we pray they have a banner year this year," King said.

Saturday, July 6, 2019

[gatortalk] Fwd: [gatornews] [SUN]: Money is too good for Florida-Georgia game to leave Jacksonville

So, shut up, Kirby! Your butt is going to Jacksonville every year for the foreseeable future. 


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From: Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com>
Date: July 6, 2019 at 2:46:52 PM CDT
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Subject: [gatornews] [SUN]:  Money is too good for Florida-Georgia game to leave Jacksonville
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Money is too good for Florida-Georgia game to leave Jacksonville

Florida defensive back Trey Dean III (21) breaks up a pass attempt to Georgia wide receiver Jeremiah Holloman in their game last month in Jacksonville. [Lauren Bacho/Staff Photographer]

By Gene Frenette, GateHouse Florida

JACKSONVILLE — Many college football traditions have gone by the wayside, some of it due to conference realignment and others lost to plain, old-fashioned greed or negligence.

Just don't expect the Florida-Georgia game to fall into that category and move away from Jacksonville any time soon.

Is it impossible? No, because few things in sports last forever. But it's going to take a lot more than occasional grumbling about Florida owning a geographical home-field advantage, or a lament from Georgia football coach Kirby Smart about losing a recruiting weekend, to compel the schools to abandon a good thing.

Prying the Florida-Georgia game away from the same venue it has played continuously since 1933 (except 1994-95 for Gator Bowl renovations) would take a bizarre turn of events. It's anchored down pretty tight at TIAA Bank Field. Jacksonville would have to fumble the ball in a bad way because nobody of considerable influence wants the game going anywhere.

Not Florida athletic director Scott Stricklin, not Georgia AD Greg McGarity, not the Jaguars, and certainly not Jacksonville mayor Lenny Curry. He's never been shy about ripping the previous administration of Alvin Brown for not being more pro-active in negotiating a contract renewal with the schools, so Curry would view it as a personal affront to see the Florida-Georgia game and its $35 million economic impact go elsewhere on his watch.

But Jacksonville's foothold on this game goes beyond staging 86 years of nearly uninterrupted tradition. It's the fans feeling connected to the 50-50 atmosphere of coming to Jacksonville, the RV city experience, the relationships forged over decades of this city trying to accommodate the wishes of the most heated SEC rivals besides Alabama and Auburn.

All those factors, however, are secondary to the most important reason why Jacksonville should have this game on lockdown for the foreseeable future: money.

Florida and Georgia are now pocketing $3.3 million in profit annually to play in Jacksonville. That's what makes any discussion of going to a home-and-home series so foolhardy because every year, the away team would receive no money and spend several hundred thousand dollars on travel costs that are now covered.

Smart can lament all he wants about Georgia losing one recruiting weekend every two years. Aside from the fact he's already brought home a top-3 recruiting class nationally every year since his arrival, there's no way McGarity or school president Jere Morehead would leave $3.3 million on the table. And nobody in the UF administration is going to consider that option either.

Plus, let's not forget playing a home-and-home series means about 35,000 fans of the road team won't have access to game tickets like they do every year when it's staged at TIAA Bank Field. Do you think Georgia or Florida wants to deal with irate season ticket-holders who would get excluded in that scenario?

None of this means Jacksonville can take for granted the game will always be here. If anything could put the game's future in jeopardy, it's complacency. The city flirted with that a little bit during the Brown administration, letting communication with the schools slip through the cracks so badly, Curry, Jaguars' president Mark Lamping and other officials had to mend some fences after the mayor took office in the summer of 2015.

The last contract didn't get signed until March, 2016, seven months before it was due to expire. Normally, a deal is consummated well over a year before the last game is played, though the Jaguars' unfinished renovations to 3,000 club seats factored into the delay.

Curry was adamant when the last contract got signed to include a provision that negotiations would start sooner in the process, so he's been more diligent about not letting communication issues become a problem.

As McGarity told the Times-Union when the 2016 deal was consummated: "The city was very responsive once [Curry] came on board. Little things in deals are big things. This isn't a slam dunk or formality. We don't want the game to move, but don't give us a reason to move it."

If there's any legitimate threat to the game leaving Jacksonville, it'd be a combination of two things: not acquiescing to the schools' contractual demand of the Florida-Georgia game capacity remaining 82,917, along with any future push from Georgia to maybe bring Atlanta's Mercedes-Benz Stadium into the equation on a biennial basis.

It's no secret the replacement venue for the demolished Georgia Dome has become a huge neutral-site player on the college football landscape. With an expanded capacity of 75,000, though it's almost 8,000 less seats than TIAA Bank Field, the only way Atlanta can significantly outspend Jacksonville for the Florida-Georgia game in terms of payout would be to charge at least double for club seats.

"The biggest threat [for Jacksonville] is somebody comes along and offers $5 million per team," said Taxslayer Gator Bowl president Rick Catlett. "But to get that, you have to set the same price as Atlanta and Dallas gets for neutral-site games. So those club seats that are $125 [at TIAA Bank Field] might have to go as high as $300. I know Georgia won't want to do that to its fan base."

Between tradition and the economics that plays out in Jacksonville's favor, nothing short of an unforeseen disaster is going to force the Florida-Georgia game out of TIAA Bank Field. Next year, look for a new five-year Florida-Georgia contract to be signed through 2026. Jacksonville is not going to be another Birmingham, which lost the SEC Championship Game to Atlanta in 2005 and will never get it back.

As long as Jacksonville makes keeping the Florida-Georgia game a top priority, nobody is going to hijack its greatest single-day sporting event.

gfrenette@jacksonville.com(904) 359-4540


























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Friday, July 5, 2019

Re: [gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators land Cocoa OG Richie Leonard IV

It's been a weird year, for sure.  I saw a post on facebook today, saying that often when a 3-star recruit decommits it's because the school is focusing on other, better players at that position.  <shrug>  Just passing on what I read.

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 8:37 PM Charlie <imagator@outlook.com> wrote:
This is a weird recruiting year. We get one and lose two in the last 24 hours.
Charlie

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Gators land Cocoa OG Richie Leonard IV

Florida football coach Dan Mullen. [ERNST PETERS/THE LEDGER]

Florida's 2020 class picked up a commitment Friday from three-star offensive guard Richard "Richie" Leonard IV.

A 6-foot-2, 320-pound prospect out of Cocoa High, Leonard committed to UF over Florida State, Kentucky and Tennessee. 

Leonard, a former Wildcats commit ranked the No. 45 offensive guard in the 2020 class by 247Sports, has seen his recruitment take off over the spring after being named the Offensive Line's MVP at The Opening Orlando in February.

After de-committing from Kentucky on April 19, Leonard took official visits to Kentucky and Tennessee on June 5 and June 21, respectively, leading many to believe the in-state product was set to leave the state for another SEC program.

But area recruiter Greg Knox and offensive line coach John Hevesy were able to land Leonard's commitment with a later-than-most offer and an ensuing unofficial visit to Gainesville on June 1.

With Leonard's pledge, the Gators hold commitment from 18 prospects in the 2020 class.





















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[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: Gators land Cocoa OG Richie Leonard IV

This is a weird recruiting year. We get one and lose two in the last 24 hours.
Charlie

On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 7:04 PM Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com> wrote:

Gators land Cocoa OG Richie Leonard IV

Florida football coach Dan Mullen. [ERNST PETERS/THE LEDGER]

Florida's 2020 class picked up a commitment Friday from three-star offensive guard Richard "Richie" Leonard IV.

A 6-foot-2, 320-pound prospect out of Cocoa High, Leonard committed to UF over Florida State, Kentucky and Tennessee. 

Leonard, a former Wildcats commit ranked the No. 45 offensive guard in the 2020 class by 247Sports, has seen his recruitment take off over the spring after being named the Offensive Line's MVP at The Opening Orlando in February.

After de-committing from Kentucky on April 19, Leonard took official visits to Kentucky and Tennessee on June 5 and June 21, respectively, leading many to believe the in-state product was set to leave the state for another SEC program.

But area recruiter Greg Knox and offensive line coach John Hevesy were able to land Leonard's commitment with a later-than-most offer and an ensuing unofficial visit to Gainesville on June 1.

With Leonard's pledge, the Gators hold commitment from 18 prospects in the 2020 class.





















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Thursday, July 4, 2019

Re: [gatortalk] Mr. 2 Bits RIP

George lived a good and long life, and he enriched the lives of hundreds of thousands of Gator fans over many years. Tonight at dinner, I will raise a glass and toast the life of Mr. Two-Bits. RIP!

Rob


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Buddy Martin is reporting  George Edmundson passed away last night.

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Re: [gatortalk] Mr. 2 Bits RIP

Very sad news. A legend in Gatorland. RIP Mr. Twobits.
Charlie

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Buddy Martin is reporting  George Edmundson passed away last night.

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Re: [gatortalk] Mr. 2 Bits RIP

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Buddy Martin is reporting  George Edmundson passed away last night.

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[gatortalk] George Edmondson

Mr. Two Bits has died. According to Buddy Martin.

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[gatortalk] Mr. 2 Bits RIP

Buddy Martin is reporting  George Edmundson passed away last night.

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Monday, July 1, 2019

[gatortalk] FW: [gatornews] Money Woes at FSU

Bobby Bowden's desire to avoid the SEC for an easier schedule has come home to roost.

Good for them.

 

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Published 6 hours ago

As the Seminole Boosters' board of directors started its off-schedule meeting in February, chair Doug Russell made sure everyone listening understood the importance of what they were about to hear.

The "information being presented was very sensitive and needs to remain within the room," Russell said, according to meeting minutes obtained last week by the Tampa Bay Times.

That information was part of the background conversations that led to the recent formation of the Florida State University Athletics Association. But it's hard not to connect what was shared in that meeting to the dilemma overshadowing FSU football.

READ MORE: FSU forms direct support organization to align athletic department with Seminole Boosters ]

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No, coach Willie Taggart's job isn't in jeopardy heading into Year 2.

It can't be. The money isn't there.

FSU's financial shortfalls haven't been a secret. Athletic director David Coburn has been upfront about the Seminoles' $3 million-plus deficit in the 2018 fiscal year. The athletic department needed a $6 million transfer from the boosters in May to balance this year's budget.

Fixing those problems through greater collaboration between the boosters and athletic department was at the heart of why both sides agreed to form the FSUAA, a direct-support organization established by FSU's board of trustees last month. Money, in fact, was the first reason Russell cited in a May email to the board of directors, before they voted on the move.

"As we all know, the FSU Athletics program has been struggling financially," Russell wrote.

As the Times reviewed 302 pages of documents — obtained under open-records laws — about the FSUAA's formation, those struggles looked even worse than expected.

MORE FSU FOOTBALL: Willie Taggart on the state of FSU football: 'It's going well. We're undefeated' ]

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Coburn described a bleak financial picture at the Seminole Boosters meeting in February. He explained how his department trimmed every sport's discretionary budget, froze its hiring and reduced travel. When coaches recruit foreign players, they cut costs by sharing trips with other schools.

And given an unattractive home football schedule that includes Miami but no other marquee team, the situation probably isn't going to get much better immediately.

"Coburn noted we would get out of this but we have to make it through next year..." the meeting's minutes read. "Coburn said the Boosters have done a great job of saving for a rainy day and from his perspective it is about to start pouring."

The boosters, apparently, agreed.

"Regarding the budget, we prepared you for it but it's difficult to actually see the numbers," Russell and Seminole Boosters president and CEO Andy Miller wrote four months later. "In order to balance this year and next, it will be necessary to sell assets."

Sell assets. Difficult to actually see the numbers. About to start pouring. Make it through next year.

Does that sound like a program that could afford a $17 million buyout of Taggart after two seasons, even if it wanted to?

And there's no indication that FSU's power brokers want Taggart on the hot seat, even after the Seminoles' bowl streak ended with last year's 5-7 failure.

The wreckage Taggart inherited from Jimbo Fisher looks worse now than it did when Fisher bolted for Texas A&M. Barring an on-field (think: 1-11) disaster or off-field scandal, Taggart deserves more than two years to try to turn around FSU the same way he did USF and Western Kentucky.

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That doesn't excuse last year's record, nor does it give him five more years to repair the program. By then, FSU's finances might be much better, and his buyout will be lower.

The upcoming ACC Network could give FSU $7-8 million once it's fully operational, Coburn told boosters. Attendance (and income) should rise with better schedules, like the future Georgia series. The new athletic association is supposed to reduce duplicated costs and potentially boost revenue.

"I have every confidence in David Coburn to cut expenses where he can and negotiate new revenues," Russell and Miller wrote, "but it will take time and that's why it will be necessary for Seminole Boosters to provide the additional support."

Eventually, that support should cause the rainy day to end. But unless the sun starts shining immediately, Taggart's future seems safe through at least 2020.

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