Monday, September 14, 2015

RE: [gatortalk] yow!

Rod Gilmore proved his incompetence on several points Saturday.

He just doesn't seem to know anything useful about football.

 

 

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From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatortalk@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:38 AM
To: GatorTalk
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow!

 

I loudly disagreed with Rod Gilmore when he made that stupid statement. Grier not only has more velocity and accuracy on his passes (be they long, short, or  intermediate), he also makes his reads faster and gets the ball out quicker. He will make some freshman mistakes  (I remember calling a certain freshman QB Danny Woeful many years ago) but feel like he is the best one we have on the roster to lead this team going forward. We have too many holes and thin spots on this year's team to view for championships,  so let's get those freshman mistakes behind us, win the games we're supposed to (and maybe some we aren't) and get back to being the mighty Gators!

 

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From:"Woody" <gatorrrrrr@gmail.com>
Date:Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:10 AM
Subject:Re: [gatortalk] yow!

Watched the game again yesterday and disagree about Treon having a better arm for the deep ball.

 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015, 11:04 AM 'Scott Lucas' via GatorTalk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I think you are right.  He has GREAT velocity on the ball.  Maybe too much at times and needs some touch sometimes, but Treon doesn't seem to really whip it in there when needed.  His ball tends to float more-- which is great for the longer passes and ones where he throws to a spot but is a problem when working the middle of the field or throwing between the zones.

 

 

From: Woody <gatorrrrrr@gmail.com>
To: Gatortalk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow!

 

Grier.

 

 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:58 AM, 'Scott Lucas' via GatorTalk <gatortalk@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Exactly my point... he did not admonish privately.  He made it very public for a very good reason and it was very intentionally done that way.  That is not at all how Muschamp did it... his ranting and raving were very personally directed, almost attacking, while this was done in a manner which puts the team into perspective. 

 

I saw that tweet as well... it further underscores that McElwain made his point and it was properly done and received.  

 

Changing the subject... Who starts this week against UK?

 

 

 

 

From: Jerry D. Belloit <belloit@clarion.edu>
To: "gatortalk@googlegroups.com" <gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow!

 

Scott, the reason the team was surrounding Taylor was that Coach Mac called them together.  He started by having Taylor look at everyone his action had hurt.

 

I saw a tweet by Tayor today.  He affirmed that Mac is a great coach and was just trying to make him a better man.  It may be that he got the message.

 

Jerry

 

 

From: GatorTalk <Gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: GatorTalk <Gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 8:31 PM
To: GatorTalk <Gatortalk@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow!

 

Kinda upset?  Do you think it was unwarranted?  Do you think he was out of line?

 

If my players blatantly disobeyed or did something I specifically said not to do, they could probably expect the same... This is not care bear football.  These are athletes in which the university has greatly invested in or is willing to do so.  If they can't hack it, or the parents can't, maybe they should go.


I coach football.  I expect far more from my players in the locker room than any joe shmoe fan would ever expect.  They are students first, athletes second, and their responsibility is to their teammates is far before themselves.  The idea that the coach should not be mad or upset or express it is just plain foreign to me.  You wouldn't let your own kids get away with irresponsibility and disobediance, would you?   How would you have him express it?

 

I found it VERY telling that he did NOT chew him out by himself and isolated.  He was surrounded by a whole bunch of players.  So was that a teaching moment or a made for TV moment?  He had a circle of players-- many I did not even recognize, surrounding Taylor.  I imagine it was both moments.

 

McElwain is building something here.  He is changing a culture of a lack of accountability.  He held a star to a higher standard in front of a group of players.  While I normally subscribe to the "praise in public, admonish in private", that was a very public and teachable moment-- for Taylor and the whole team and nation.  That is NOT what the Gators represent.  He is trying to show that-- to parents, to recruits, to fans....

 

To not come down hard on Taylor condones it... I have no problem with McElwain's handling of the situation.  If it was not "made of TV", then why was Taylor in the next series?  There is more to this than meets the eye...

 

Look big picture.

 

 

From: C. Simpson <imagator@outlook.com>
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [gatortalk] yow!

 

Unfortunately all the players except the true freshmen have witnessed ranting and raving first hand the past few years. I was kind of disappointed in coach's behavior on the sidelines. Hopefully imo he can figure out a way going forward to correct the problem.
Charlie

 

On 9/13/2015 11:27 AM, g8r73@comcast.net wrote:

The way he chewed out Kelvin Taylor after the "slashing" personal foul after the TD shows how angry he was at the entire team play.  They better get it together going into the meat of the season, starting next week!!!

 

From: "Jay Cicone" <Jay.Cicone@RaymondJames.com>
To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 10:22:34 AM
Subject: [gatortalk] yow!

 

Any of you watch Mac's post game talk. He is seething and very, very disturbed to the point of being near speechless. The offending players are going to have to make a decision NOW or they're done, gone, maybe even off the team. This looks really ugly. Hopefully he will have the strength to hold back physically. Looks like a bit more of a tweak and he could snap.

 

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