Monday, November 4, 2024

[gatortalk] Pick 'em results

Some stellar scores Saturday in Pick 'em. Logjam in first among Courtney McDonnell, Dom Bubri, Edward L Tauscher, Frazier Chiles, Glenn Dobbs, Jim Saurman, Scott Francis, TJ Hammond, Tim Cleveland, Tim McCausland, Tod Drost, and Wendy Gaff at 10-2.

Even more peeps were at 9-3, congratulations to all of you.

Year to date, Scott Francis has a big lead at 60-36, followed by Will Terry at 57-39, and Jessie King tied with Rick Miller at 56-40.

We will play again this week.

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May the Gators receive some good luck. Any good luck? A bit? Please? I mean really.

John and Oz


Friday, November 1, 2024

[gatortalk] Let's play Pick 'em

Time to roll up the newspapers and spank those mangy mutts!

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BEAT GEORGIA!

John and Oz

Tuesday, October 29, 2024

[gatortalk] Re: [gatornews] [SUN]: How much does Florida football miss UGA RB Trevor Etienne? Not as much as you think

How does one "discover" Travis Etienne's younger brother?

-Zeb

On Oct 29, 2024, at 11:02 AM, Shane Ford <goufgators01@gmail.com> wrote:

Napier didn't let on how much Etienne's transfer hurt him personally. It was Napier and UF running backs coach Jabbar Juluke who first discovered Etienne out of Jennings, La., a small Cajun farming and oil town within an hour's drive of Louisiana's campus. When Napier left Louisiana to coach at Florida in December of 2021, he convinced Etienne to sign the following February.

Wednesday, October 23, 2024

[gatortalk] Pick 'em results

Three-way tie for first place last Saturday. Bo Wroble, Danny Smith, and Jay Richardson were 9-3. In second at 8-4 were Doby Gray, Edward L Tauscher, James Bilbrey, Jessie King, Patrick Petty, Scott Kamien, and Wanda Kromer.

For the year, Scott Francis is 50-34, followed by Jessie King, Rick Miller, and Shawn Kopelakis at 49-45. In third is Will Terry at 48-36.

No Pick 'em this week as the Gators have the week off. Up next on November 2nd it's Georgia.

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Go Gators!

John and Oz

Monday, October 21, 2024

[gatortalk] [SUN]: Opinion: 'Bad call' in Georgia-Texas game set bad precedent as refs cave to angry fans


Clarity came to the officials in Austin, Texas, amid a deluge of debris, while replays of a controversial penalty showed on the stadium's big screen.

Referees conferred and reversed a controversial pass interference call in the second half of Saturday's Georgia-Texas game. That's allowed. That they changed their mind about the penalty after fans interrupted the game by trashing the field, though, came as a unique and shocking twist.

It gave the appearance that the refs caved to unruly fans.

I find it highly improbable that the weekend's most controversial call would have been reversed if not for how Texas fans reacted to the initial penalty.

Afterward, Texas defensive back Jahdae Barron said what most of us were thinking: Longhorns fans' outrage influenced officials to reverse the call.

"Yeah, probably," Barron said, when asked whether he thought the crowd's response influenced the call reversal. "Most likely."

Jeers turned to cheers.

What happened on controversial penalty in Georgia vs. Texas game?

Here's how it all went down: Barron intercepted a Carson Beck pass in the third quarter and returned his prize to the Georgia 9-yard line. But wait, a flag rested on the field.

Three officials huddled to discuss the penalty for about 20 seconds, before head referee Matt Loeffler announced the call: Defensive pass interference on Barron. No interception. First down, Georgia.

Texas fans howled.

Contact occurred between Georgia receiver Arian Smith and Barron, but the replay appeared to show Smith initiated the contact.

When the stadium's video board showed the replay, fans became more inflamed. They littered the field with debris, with most of the objects thrown from the student section.

Longhorns coach Steve Sarkisian raced across the field and pleaded with fans to stop throwing objects, while Texas cheerleaders helped clear the debris. The objects stopped flying, and fans redirected to chanting a profanity that rhymes with bull-spit.

The replay showed in the stadium multiple times.

Did the officials take a peek? You won't convince me none of them stole a glance.

In any case, while the game paused amid the fracas, the officiating crew reconvened, before Loeffler announced a stunning reversal: No pass interference. No penalty. First down, Texas.

Two plays later, the Longhorns celebrated in the end zone, and Georgia's lead reduced to 23-15.

Pass interference call change sets bad precedent, laments Georgia's Kirby Smart

Did the crowd reaction and game delay cause the refs to change course? There's no way of saying for certain, but my thoughts mirror Barron's: Most likely.

Officials already had stepped off the penalty yardage before the game paused while fans rendered the field unplayable for a few minutes. If not for the crowd's field-littering, would the officials have halted the game and reconvened to reconsider the penalty, before Georgia snapped its next play? I doubt it.

So, did officials get this right?

In a way, yes, and also not at all.

The way I and other press-row observers saw it, Barron should not have been flagged for pass interference, because the contact between Barron and Smith did not appear to amount to a defensive penalty.

Officials are allowed to gather and discuss a flag such as this before reaching a decision. However, pass interference is nonreviewable, meaning that this judgment call cannot be reversed due to replay.

So, although the refs might have gotten the call right in the end, how they arrived at their decision is highly unusual at best, and awfully fishy at worst.

Three officials gathered to discuss the flag before the penalty was first announced. Why wasn't the flag waved off then? What changed between that initial conference and the second?

Here's what changed: Fans halted the game with their outrage, the replay showed multiple times in the stadium, and officials reversed the call.

Maybe, an official just happened to have an epiphany amid a rainfall of water bottles. Sure, that's possible. But, would that epiphany have arrived in timely fashion, had the game not been halted for three minutes, during which time the replay played on repeat for any wandering eyes to see?

Consider Georgia coach Kirby Smart among the highly skeptical.

"Now we have a precedent," Smart lamented, "that if you throw a bunch of stuff on the field and endanger athletes, that you've got a chance to get your call reversed."

Ravenous fans from Knoxville to Oxford lick their chops.

When the home crowd doesn't like a ticky-tack call, bombs away! Meanwhile, show that replay on a loop in the stadium until the refs come to their senses!

How SEC punished Texas for fan behavior

The SEC ordered Texas to try to sleuth out the bottle-throwers and ban those fans from attending games for the rest of the athletic season. I'm sure that'll be a crack investigation that would do Barney Fife proud.

The SEC also fined Texas $250,000. Big whoop. Flushing cash is a time-honored ritual of college athletics departments. If the call reversal had influenced the outcome of the game – it didn't, Georgia won 30-15 – the Longhorns would've considered that money well spent.

Barron said he thought officials got the penalty wrong from the onset and that "it was crazy" he was flagged.

"I thought it was a bad call," Barron said, "so it was good they changed it."

Good that officials corrected the call, yes, but awful in the way they arrived at their decision.

Blake Toppmeyer is the USA TODAY Network's national college football columnist. Email him at BToppmeyer@gannett.com and follow him on Twitter @btoppmeyer.

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Friday, October 18, 2024

[gatortalk] Let's play Pick 'em

Sorry for the delay letting everyone know, it's time to play Pick 'em!

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Go Gators, BEAT KENTUCKY!

John and Oz

Tuesday, October 15, 2024

[gatortalk] Pick 'em results

Couple of nearly perfect scores last Saturday! John Harrison and Will Terry were 11-1 to take first place. Just one game behind at 10-2 were Becky Maher, Cathy Duncan, and Ken Kirkley. At 9-3 were Frazier Chiles, Jim Mesojedec, Rob Davis, Scott Francis, and TJ Hammond.

For the year, Will Terry is on top at 45-27, Scott Francis is 43-29, and at 42-30 are Becky Maher, Ken Duffield, Rick Miller, and Shawn Kopelakis.

We will give it a go this weekend once again.

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GO GATORS!

John and Oz